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Krits · Jun 20, 2011, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I have a few questions with record run tactics for uwsc(especially with
recent record for uwsc)

I noticed Vale team have EE in almost all record tactics, where/when exactly do they use this skill?

Also, what are fast pulls that are used in these tactics, and what are fast pulls?

Lastly, does a R/A t2 pop a ghastly as soon as he gets to mnts?, I am trying to wrap my head around the 6 or 7ish minutes t2 r/a,I can't figure out how do people do it that fast. I understand t1 does waste pull so reaper q can taken quickly for t2, but even then it would take about 5mins or so to pop mnts reaper

Any answer/ideas is appreciated

Edit: Another question that is unrelated to record runs question, is there a specific method of taking mnts q as soon as reaper is popped(without killing bottom obsi aggroes). For the life of me, i can't take the q even if I click the reaper as fast as possible. He just ignores me(even with the tick box to take q open) and attacks bottom aggro

Pluisje · Jun 20, 2011, 11:35 AM // 11:35

To answer your questions step by step.
- Ebon Escape is used in vale to jump to the last group, that way you don't have to walk all the way around and can easily avoid coldfires.

- The only pull that's different (aside from wastespull) is during Escort. The LT aggress the first 2 spawns of mindblades and pulls them on the bottom of the first stairs (as seen here

- You shouldn't use a Ghastly at mntns because other areas have a higher need of a summon ans also there's no guarantee you can kill it and record runs require a summon at Dhuum. Only use it as a 'last resort.' btw, 6 min t2 is impossible, fastest time so far is low 9 min I think.

- to take the quest faster, I like to kill the dryders near his spawn location and then spam V (select nearest ally), the Space to talk en then just be fast with taking the quest.

I hope that helps you out.

~Hydro

James Pontikka · Jun 20, 2011, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Mnts reaper can easily be popped at 4 mins if you have a pretty good spawn

Pluisje · Jun 20, 2011, 02:29 PM // 14:29

@ james; I don't think that answers any of his questions...

James Pontikka · Jun 20, 2011, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krits

I understand t1 does waste pull so reaper q can taken quickly for t2, but even then it would take about 5mins or so to pop mnts reaper

this?........

Altair ac · Jun 20, 2011, 05:35 PM // 17:35

mtns quest has been completed at 4 minutes before (quest taken at 3). from there it takes 5-6 minutes to complete. EE is used for a lot of things to save time in vale and other parts of the run

ori · Jun 20, 2011, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krits

I noticed Vale team have EE in almost all record tactics, where/when exactly do they use this skill?

The SOS and DWG can both EE to the LT when he/she has finished their pulls, in order to spike faster. I'm not sure if that specifically is used in record runs but I would assume it is as it is faster than running up to the ball.

Pluisje · Jun 20, 2011, 08:11 PM // 20:11

DWG doesn't EE on LT for spikes. You drop your DWG ashes if you do. I know you can recast it, but u must use DWG twice to actually drop it. If u run up with precasted DWG, you drop the ashes on the first cast already.

Wisdom Steals · Jun 21, 2011, 03:42 PM // 15:42

In my opinion the safest way to quick take the quest is to not spam v as soon as he spawns as in some cases you can talk to him to early and the quest is nonresponsive so i wait until he is visable. But if you do manage to glitch take he will then obviously be attacking and for that reason you have to kill the terrorwebs and keepers and in many cases its faster to clear bottom than ball them all up. Especially if you miss one then its just annoying. Even if your quest is complete, the reaper is not immune until he ends his current session of combat. Some claim this a glitch, some claim it does not happen all the time. To me it makes sense and happens every time it occurs for me. I would be suprised if the record run had a bottom spawn that did aggro the reaper.

Pluisje · Jun 21, 2011, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Even if you kill all the quest dryders, it's a pot faster than killing bottom spawn.

Olle · Jun 21, 2011, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Some guilds pop powerstones in order to spam skills more often .

Raz the red rat · Jun 21, 2011, 04:56 PM // 16:56

No kill bottom is faster than killing dyders! Trust me!

Also its nice to use a powerstone to recharge whiling faster. AND dreamrider sucks in mnts.

Windbow · Jun 21, 2011, 08:26 PM // 20:26

At r10 whirling has 4 seconds downtime. Record run people have max rank. Stone is for duos. killing dryders will always be faster. You can ball them in 3 sec then spike in 4.